Battling with Business

In this podcast, Gareth Tennant, a former Royal Marines Officer, and Chris Kitchener, a veteran of the software development world, explore ideas and concepts around teams and teamwork, leaders and leadership, and all things in between. It’s a discussion between a former military commander and a business manager, comparing and contrasting their experiences as they attempt to work out what makes teams, leaders, and businesses tick.

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7 days ago

As Halloween approaches, they muse on what it would take to build a "Frankenstein’s monster" of a leader—combining the best (and sometimes questionable) traits from history’s most notable figures.
In this first part, of a 2 part series, Chris and Gareth tackle the intriguing challenge of defining great leadership. They dive into the traits that set exceptional leaders apart, exploring why identifying and cultivating such talent can be so elusive. 
They explore the role of charisma, using Adolf Hitler and Boris Johnson as cautionary examples, while celebrating Dolly Parton’s unique balance of charm and respect across the spectrum. Chris and Gareth look into what makes charisma both powerful and dangerous if left unchecked by vision, strategy, and tactical skills.
As they compare incremental versus radical innovation, the hosts pull from examples like the British cycling team’s “marginal gains” approach and Elon Musk’s transformative ventures, debating which qualities leaders need to be both adaptable and forward-thinking. They take on the concept of context in leadership by discussing figures like Erwin Rommel and Jackie Fisher—asking, would they be as successful outside their times?
From building adaptable leaders who blend tactical and strategic skills to analysing how radical innovators like Steve Jobs and Winston Churchill reshaped their fields, Chris and Gareth challenge traditional views. They conclude with a call for leaders who are not just visionaries but tacticians and innovators—ready for whatever the future brings.
Catch this episode to hear more on charisma, strategy, and the dynamic balance between incremental and radical change in leadership!

Thursday Oct 24, 2024

In this thought-provoking episode of Battling with Business, Gareth engages in a compelling conversation with former Royal Marine and seasoned actor, Tip Cullen. With over 30 years of experience as a Mountain Leader, Tip’s military career spans elite operations in forward reconnaissance and instructing in some of the world's most extreme mountainous and cold weather environments. As Gareth’s former Sergeant Major during basic training, their connection brings a personal dimension to the discussion.
The episode explores the profound role of storytelling in leadership, both in high-stakes military scenarios and within the civilian workforce. Tip sheds light on how storytelling can inspire, motivate, and create lasting impact in teams and organizations. He also dives into his current work with veterans, using the transformative power of acting and storytelling to help them rediscover joy, purpose, and positive energy as they transition into civilian life.
Tune in to learn how the art of storytelling is not just a leadership tool, but a bridge to personal growth and resilience. This conversation is packed with insights for leaders, veterans, and anyone seeking to harness the power of narrative to drive change.
 

Wednesday Oct 16, 2024

In this engaging episode of Battling with Business, Chris and Gareth take a deep dive into the life, philosophy, and legacy of one of history's most influential and controversial thinkers—Niccolò Machiavelli. This instalment in their Influencers Series brings Machiavelli's ideas to life as Gareth sets the historical context behind his most famous works, such as The Prince, and explains how his concepts have shaped leadership, politics, and philosophy over centuries.
The conversation takes an intriguing turn as Chris and Gareth explore one of the central questions surrounding Machiavelli: Was he a force for good or bad? They tackle the complex and often misunderstood notion of being "Machiavellian," discussing whether this term is still relevant in today’s leadership landscape. Chris uses a compelling series of Machiavelli’s quotes to challenge modern leaders to rethink how they approach power, ethics, and decision-making. Meanwhile, Gareth delves into key Machiavellian concepts such as realpolitik, strategic deception, and the balance between virtue and pragmatism. He explores how these ideas continue to influence contemporary leadership, politics, and even corporate strategy.
This episode isn’t just about history—it’s a thought-provoking exploration of how ancient wisdom applies to modern leadership. Whether you're a business leader, strategist, or history enthusiast, this episode promises to deliver actionable insights and fresh perspectives on power, virtue, and success in today’s complex world.

Thursday Oct 10, 2024

In this engaging episode of Battling with Business, hosts Chris and Gareth have an insightful conversation with renowned personal development consultant Keith Reesby. The episode delves into the transformative impact of reflective practice, exploring how self-reflection can foster personal growth and strengthen resilience. Keith shares expert advice on how setting realistic and, more importantly, meaningful goals can help individuals—particularly children and young adults—develop healthy habits that lead to long-term success.
A key focus of the episode is the role of Stoic Philosophy in providing a foundation for self-reflection and resilience. Keith explains how this ancient philosophy equips individuals to handle life’s challenges with calm and control. He shares powerful strategies for adopting a Stoic mindset, preparing for adversity by considering worst-case scenarios—a method that helps build emotional fortitude before a crisis occurs.
Listeners will also enjoy Keith and Gareth sharing captivating “war stories” from their own experiences, where resilience was tested and strengthened. These real-life anecdotes not only bring excitement to the discussion but also offer practical examples of how reflecting on potential challenges can develop mental toughness and resilience in both everyday life and high-pressure situations.
Whether you’re a parent seeking to instil valuable life lessons in your children, a leader aiming to nurture resilience in your team, or someone looking for personal development strategies, this episode is full of actionable insights. Tune in for an engaging discussion blending Stoic wisdom, goal-setting approaches, and practical advice on building lifelong resilience.

Thursday Oct 03, 2024

In this insightful episode of the Battling with Business podcast, hosts Chris and Gareth continue their exploration of stress management, building on themes discussed in a previous episode. They dive deep into the impact of stress on both individuals and teams, highlighting how unmanaged stress can affect mental health, productivity, and overall workplace dynamics.
The episode unpacks the different ways stress manifests in the workplace, from individual burnout to team-wide inefficiencies. Chris and Gareth emphasize the critical role that both employees and leaders play in managing stress effectively. For individuals, the focus is on personal coping strategies such as mindfulness, time management, and maintaining a healthy work-life balance. For leaders, they explore techniques to support teams, such as fostering open communication, promoting mental health awareness, and creating a resilient workplace culture.
Listeners will gain actionable insights into stress management from both individual and leadership perspectives, helping them to better navigate high-pressure environments. Whether you're an employee feeling overwhelmed or a leader striving to support your team, this episode provides practical advice on reducing stress and improving performance in business settings.
Key themes include:
The psychological and physical effects of stress on the individual
How team performance suffers under high stress
Coping mechanisms for individuals: mindfulness, exercise, and time management
Leadership strategies for reducing team stress: communication, resilience-building, and supportive environments
How effective stress management leads to improved business outcomes
Tune in for this in-depth conversation on stress in the workplace, designed to help both individuals and leaders take control of stress and foster a healthier, more productive working environment.

Wednesday Oct 02, 2024

Are you better at judgment than a model of you? 
In this episode of Battling with Business, Gareth and Chris dive deep into the world of data-driven decision-making with renowned expert Doug Hubbard, author of the popular series of books How to Measure Anything. Doug shares ground-breaking insights on how businesses can revolutionise their approach to project management by focusing on what truly matters: measuring the right variables and embracing quantitative models over flawed human intuition.
Doug explains how simple yet powerful tools like Monte Carlo simulations can outpace even the most seasoned experts in forecasting outcomes—whether in project management, sports predictions, or investment strategies. He highlights the common pitfalls of human judgment, such as inconsistency, selective memory, and overconfidence, which often lead to poor decision-making. By adopting scientifically proven methods, businesses can overcome these challenges and dramatically improve their results.
One of the key takeaways from this episode is Doug’s emphasis on measuring uncertainty in project benefits, rather than just focusing on costs. Many organizations fall into the trap of measuring what’s easy rather than what’s valuable. Doug shows that by focusing on the right metrics, businesses can unlock untapped potential and improve performance in ways that standard project management techniques have failed to deliver.
The conversation also explores the exciting future of AI and human-AI collaboration in project management. Doug argues that while AI can surpass human decision-making in certain areas, it should be viewed as a powerful tool to augment human expertise. From running simulations to testing decision-making models, AI has the potential to enhance forecasting, reduce risk, and help leaders make better-informed decisions in complex projects.
Listeners will come away with a fresh perspective on decision-making, armed with practical strategies to implement data-driven methods that can lead to measurable improvements in project outcomes. This episode is a must-listen for business leaders, project managers, and anyone looking to embrace a more scientific approach to solving real-world challenges.

Thursday Sep 19, 2024

In this episode of "Battling with Business,"  Chris and Gareth are joined by the insightful and knowledgeable Ben Ford from Mission Ctrl, who provides a thorough exploration of complexity in modern business and strategy. Ben’s expertise is evident as he delves into key themes such as the OODA loop (Observe, Orient, Decide, Act) framework, developed by military strategist John Boyd, and its significance in navigating decision-making in complex, fast-moving environments.
Throughout the discussion, Ben demonstrates a deep understanding of the role of Large Language Models (LLMs), and how these advanced AI tools are transforming business processes and enhancing decision-making. His insights into the integration of technical skills with strategic thinking offer valuable perspectives for business leaders seeking to adapt to the evolving challenges of complexity.
Ben’s thoughtful contributions guide listeners through the practical applications of OODA loops, the strategic importance of LLMs, and the crucial balance between technical expertise and strategic understanding for thriving in today’s dynamic business landscape. His wealth of knowledge across these topics makes this episode a must-listen for professionals interested in business strategy, complexity theory, and the transformative potential of AI in business.

Thursday Sep 12, 2024


In this episode of the "Battling with Business" podcast, hosts Chris and Gareth take a deep dive into the life, leadership, and legacy of one of the most prominent and controversial British Prime Ministers, Margaret Thatcher. Known as the "Iron Lady," Thatcher’s policies and leadership style had a profound impact on British politics, society, and the global stage.
Chris and Gareth examine her rise to power, detailing her journey as the first female Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and the factors that made her a formidable leader. They discuss key moments in her career, such as her approach to economic reform, the privatization of national industries, and the controversial "Thatcherism" ideology that reshaped Britain's economy.
The episode also covers her leadership during significant historical events, such as the Falklands War, and her firm stance on Cold War politics, which solidified her place in global diplomacy. Chris and Gareth don’t shy away from the contentious aspects of Thatcher's legacy, analysing the social and economic divisions her policies caused and why she remains a polarizing figure in British history.
Listeners will gain insights into the attributes that made Margaret Thatcher an influential, albeit divisive, leader. From her unyielding determination to her visionary approach to governance, Chris and Gareth offer a comprehensive look at how Thatcher’s leadership style has influenced modern political discourse.
Tune in to this episode of "Battling with Business" to understand the complex legacy of Margaret Thatcher, and the leadership lessons that can still be applied in business and politics today.
 

Thursday Sep 05, 2024

In this episode of the Battling with Business podcast, hosts Chris and Gareth delve into the pervasive issue of workplace stress, a topic that is increasingly pertinent in today's fast-paced and demanding work environments. They begin by challenging the common perception that stress is always harmful, exploring whether there are circumstances where stress can actually act as a positive, motivating force that enhances performance and drives innovation. The conversation then moves on to the crucial role that leaders play in managing and mitigating stress within their teams.
Chris and Gareth emphasise that effective leadership involves not only recognising the signs of stress in employees but also understanding its underlying causes. They discuss practical strategies for leaders to create a supportive work environment that prioritises mental health and well-being. This includes fostering open communication, providing resources for stress management, and ensuring that workloads are balanced and reasonable. The hosts also explore the long-term benefits of proactively addressing stress, such as improved employee engagement, productivity, and overall organisational health.
Throughout the episode, Chris and Gareth offer actionable insights for leaders who aim to prevent burnout and promote a positive workplace culture. They stress the importance of empathy, active listening, and early intervention when signs of stress emerge. By the end of the episode, listeners will have a deeper understanding of the complex role that stress plays in the workplace and how thoughtful leadership can transform potential stressors into opportunities for growth and development.

Wednesday Aug 28, 2024

In this episode of "Battling with Business," hosts Chris and Gareth dive deep into Bruce Tuckman's widely recognized team development model, focusing on his five-stage group formation theory. They discuss the Forming, Storming, Norming, Performing, and Adjourning stages, providing real-world examples and actionable insights from their extensive backgrounds in both the military and business sectors. The episode offers valuable tips on how understanding these stages can enhance team dynamics, improve leadership strategies, and lead to more effective outcomes in project management and organizational behavior. This discussion is essential for anyone interested in team building, leadership development, or effective group management in both corporate and military environments.

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